Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by Hostrauser » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:48 pm

Congrats to Diamond Bar! Fantastic conclusion to a fantastic season!

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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by uci_guy » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:35 pm

Aux
80.5 rancho bernardo
83.5 riverking
84.0 eldo
85.0 mira mesa
88.5 mt carmel
89.5 chino SS

Band
86.1 mira mesa
87.9 rk
88.1 chino
88.6 el dorado
91.8 mt carmel
92.7 ranch bernardo. SS


Perc. Rancho bernardo
Visual mt carmel
Vis effect rb
Music effect rb
music rb

Definitely surprised by the results. RB went right after ElDo and in my opinion, I didn't see a 4 point spread. But im not a judge... :/
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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by dudewheresmycar » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:00 am

Congrats Diamond Bar on parade sweeps, much deserved!

Congrats RB for taking a risk on field - it finally paid off. A much different show than four nights ago. Championships will be interesting next week.

Not surprised by the results.

Awesome night. Kudos to everyone!

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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by Heyoo85 » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:29 am

What an amazing parade and field tournament this year...it was awesome to see it all come together, students, parents and community. Thank you Arcadia!

EVERYONE should be proud of their performances!

I'll preface by saying I am a spectator, marched in high school and have been following the scene since.

On the street, Diamond Bar was just AWESOME. Powerful but clean, solid marching, amazing guard - they had the whole package! Congrats to the Thundering Herd - you guys rocked!! Was this their first time ever winning sweepstakes at AFOB?

Mt. Carmel was another band I thought had a lot of gusto and really brought their a-game. Not sure if I dig the redness of it all but their performance was strong.

Chino was also fantastic - I think they were my favorite after Diamond Bar. Really awesome performance and good visual look. They should be very proud!

RB and RK were disappointing in my personal opinion. RB because I love March of the Women Marines and while yes there was no arguing it was musically rich and their parade block was in solid formation, it felt underpowered to me and I can't get over the 7 across - they marched half of what Diamond Bar, RK, Chino, Mt Carmel. Yes, totally director's discretion but I feel the marching band Gods rumbling with a "whaaat?"

RK while very put together and an excellent guard, marching and musicianship, just felt like they fell short of the goose bump factor for me.

I also really liked Kaiser and Garey! Great performances with a lot of pride.

On the field, Mt Carmel was a stunner. Their show was awesome and I was (as well as many members of the audience) perplexed that they didn't outscore RB. RB's show while aggressive in the beginning I found to be very morbid and depressing. We cheer the students and parents that make it all happen, but I don't like the concept.

El Dorado - the lights were awesome. Chino, also amazing good show.

Again, my opinions, feel free to disagree :)

Overall, great show, great time, great memories!
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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by Jim Bunselmeier » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:16 pm

I too was among the surprised when Mt. Carmel did not have the highest score.

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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by bassoonietoons » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:07 pm

Well, it was a really nice Arcadia to watch there was a lot of power behind the bands and a lot of good sounds made. :D :D :D

First Congratulations to Diamond Bar, well deserved for the amount of work they put into it. :D :bow:

However, even though I'm sure it's not much of my place to question any of the judges scores made. I however do have an interjection to make. I know judging bands is really a hard task at hand, especially when you judge the last four bands. And they all are very clean so it's comes down to who saw what and no one chokes.

Diamond Bar, having a phenomenal season, that was well earned. But... that's all they do. They don't do field so really it should be expected that they take sweepstakes. They probably have other activities outside of band, but they don't have weight of a field show that other schools have such as RB, Carmel, and RK have. Having 7-8 more minutes of music to memorize, and visuals, and drill. Plus I heard Diamond Bar had a great field band back in the day and it would be really cool to see that again. :D

Next, I made an assumption that the band review would turn out a certain way and minus the scores, it turned out how I expected it to for the most part. And today, like a lot of people, I sat down and watch the bands on YouTube. Thank God for Music 213 :D . But, I watched RK, Diamond Bar, RB and Mt. Carmel 6 times. Judging first marching, music twice, showmanship, aux., and then drum major. Using the guidelines that SCSBOA judges are given. And it came out a little differently then what happened yesterday. Also, take fact in that I could really not see what the marching judge saw because we only see them from one view point on the camera.

So the scores are significantly lower...

Band

Mt. Carmel - 94.30 Sweepstakes
Marching - 185
Music - 478
Showmanship - 280
Aux. - I forgot...
Drum Major - 93.7 (In relation to the other mace DM's 2nd place to Diamond Ranch who I thought got first)

Riverside King - 94.10 1st Place
Marching - 181
Music - 483
Showmanship - 277
Aux. - 88.50 (2nd)
Drum Major - 93.3 (2ND)

Diamond Bar - 94.05 2nd Place
Marching - 181
Music - 478.5
Showmanship - 281
Aux. - 91.50 (Sweeps)
Drum Major - 91.3 (3rd)

Rancho Bernardo 93.7 3rd Place
Marching - 178
Music - 485
Showmanship - 274
Aux. - 83.80 (No Clue for the place I would put, I didn't watch every one)
Drum Major - 77.0 (5pt Penalty)

Also the other top auxiliary units, and drum majors that placed high and were not the top 4 bands

Aux.
Glendora - 88.7 (1st)

Drum Major
Olympian - 93.6 (1st Mil. DM)

Also I'm so happy to see that Arlington made it up in the ranks close the top 6 or 7 bands. Congratulations!!! :D :bow:

So this is just what I thought. O'well til next years I guess. Congratulations to all bands yesterday. And good luck to those who are doing the SCSBOA Champoinships.

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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by 12drummersdrumming » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:39 pm

What you have to remember is that you got to watch and re-watch the videos 6 times. Judges don't have that luxury. They are making split second decisions.

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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by bassoonietoons » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:49 pm

12drummersdrumming wrote:What you have to remember is that you got to watch and re-watch the videos 6 times. Judges don't have that luxury. They are making split second decisions.
Each time I judged something else, each judge judges something different and I watched music twice because I was typing my thoughts on an iPhone. So yeah....

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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by Jim Bunselmeier » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:37 am

Not to mention watching/listening to a video is completely different from seeing/hearing a band live. The scores are different because of this difference and because a judging panel gives 6 different evaluations of 3 different categories.

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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by uci_guy » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:13 pm

Anyone know if/when recaps will be posted?
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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by Bandmaster » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:08 pm

uci_guy wrote:Anyone know if/when recaps will be posted?
When I asked last year I was told the only thing that matters is the "grid." Last year no recaps were posted after the grid was complete, so I'm not counting on it for this year either... :(
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Re: Arcadia festival of bands predictions?

Post by nanderson78 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:07 pm

I will post recaps after championships.

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