4' 33" by John Cage

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Post by vore » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:54 pm

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Post by Chapagne » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:37 am

I think this piece should probably be performed much more often in the U.S. We, as a people, don't stop to just listen much any more. And this is pretty much one piece jerk parents couldn't talk through and ruin for others around them (can you tell I had a concert recently?). Even if they did, that sound would be considered part of the performance.

Of course, I'm a big fan of minimalism, so that probably tempers my opinion. My wife is continually flummoxed by how I can listen to Steve Reich repeat a rhythm with very little change for minutes on end, but dismiss lots of popular music as repetitive and boring.

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Post by visualstaff » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:10 pm

If it were being performed in a public venue, then I hope they would at least emphasize that it is a modernist concert. Personally, my favorite part of the video is the coughing that takes place in between movements. Does silence just beg to be coughed at?
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Post by vore » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:25 pm

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Post by mightyhorn » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:55 pm

I had always heard of this piece... but never seen it. At S.J.S.U. we did a piece called "Rockytop Sreamers and Various Scapes" by
Dr. Allen Strange, which involved graphic notation and the contudtor "conductiing" each 5 minutte interval of time.
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Post by azn_zeratul » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:09 pm

seriously i know id be like half falling asleep and my cousin, if he was to be with me, probably making noise with his phone like what he did when we were watching the movie "Day After Tomorrow" which i found it to be totally BORINGG

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Post by senza cervello » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:14 pm

I'm performing this for my Theory of Knowledge class. I didn't want to pay the $5.95 so I decided to re-write it myself in Sibelius. I hope won'tbe a copywright infringement lawsuit coming...

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Post by Jakob der ludner » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:54 pm

haha, it must take real maturity to sit there and perform it, moreso than watching it. Heck, if I had an instrument in my hand and had to sit still for almost 5 minutes...
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Post by azn_zeratul » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:06 pm

senza cervello wrote:I'm performing this for my Theory of Knowledge class. I didn't want to pay the $5.95 so I decided to re-write it myself in Sibelius. I hope won'tbe a copywright infringement lawsuit coming...
lol.. how do u do this in tok? O_O

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Post by LoyalTubist » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:37 am

I used to use this piece when I taught music theory as an example of my definition of music,

...the organization of sound and silence...

Consequently, anything can be music and this proves it. That doesn't mean I like it. My musical tastes are much more conservative than that.

Personally, I think John Cage was a comedian at heart.

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