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Post by lord hornblower » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:23 pm

In a drill down, is "As I was" an acceptable response to "as you were, sir" if you are calling the drill down? Or must the person calling the drill respond with "As you were"?

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Post by Zarathrustra » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:36 pm

Usually, "As I was" is what is stated.

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Post by formermarcher » Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:01 pm

I agree...if you made a chain of verbal commands that conflicted with each other (either on purpose or by accident), make sure the group shouts out "as you were sir".

They aren't supposed to do anything until you say "as I was".
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Post by MoophoniumMan » Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:23 pm

That's funny... I am about to graduate after four years of marching band -- two as drum major -- and I always thought the commander said "as you were" after the band said "as you were" to correct the mistake; to my understanding there is no first-person in drilldowns.

Anyone else in the same boat as me?

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Post by Ryan H. Turner » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:11 pm

Yes...there is no "first person" and however that got started, apparently they didn't check with me. The correct response is either to confirm the receipt of the message yelled at you by replying, as if in agreement, "as you were". Or...I used in my drill downs way back when "cancel previous commands" to clean the slate, so to speak.

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Post by lord hornblower » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:13 pm

precisely. so, the way I understand it, if the drum major were to respond with "As I was", then the people participating in the drill down would respond with "As you were, sir" after the next command, or be out.

LAME. I got second place at the Encinal Band Review drill down(norcal) because of this. The drum major made a mistake, and myself and the two other remaining participants responded with "as you were". The drum major responded with "as I was", and then proceeded with the next command. I heard this as a mistake, and was the only one that responded with "as you were" again. The two other participants complained, claiming that they had "learned it both ways", so we continued the drill down. I got all mad, lost concentration, and came in 2nd.

ahhh. well, now I know for sure.

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Post by ZJH » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:37 pm

No Gomez, the DM shouldn't even be saying "as I was" in the first place. The only acceptable responses would be "as you were" or "cancel all previous commands," but I would think that "as you were" would be the preferred command.
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Post by FluteOfTheNewWorld » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:19 pm

What's a drill down... lol
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Post by Ryan H. Turner » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:40 pm

FluteOfTheNewWorld wrote:What's a drill down... lol
Are you serious? I'll assume you are.

The basic definition is taking a group of people and having them "en masse" execute a series of standing commands, such as attention, parade rest, facings, horns up, horns down, etc. You can even have moving commands as well, such as "forward...hut", "backwards...hut", "to the right flank...hut", etc. The drill down is an honor system, so if you make a mistake of any kind, you are supposed to take yourself out. Normally on drill downs the people that take themselves out stand at attention in front of the people that are still in and watch. Other times I've allowed them to watch and cheer. That's always fun too.

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Post by FluteOfTheNewWorld » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:03 pm

Ryan H. Turner wrote:
FluteOfTheNewWorld wrote:What's a drill down... lol
Are you serious? I'll assume you are.

The basic definition is taking a group of people and having them "en masse" execute a series of standing commands, such as attention, parade rest, facings, horns up, horns down, etc. You can even have moving commands as well, such as "forward...hut", "backwards...hut", "to the right flank...hut", etc. The drill down is an honor system, so if you make a mistake of any kind, you are supposed to take yourself out. Normally on drill downs the people that take themselves out stand at attention in front of the people that are still in and watch. Other times I've allowed them to watch and cheer. That's always fun too.
Oh ok.. yeah we do that... but in the flute section don't have a name for it other than the marching simon says.
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Post by March4Life » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:33 pm

FluteOfTheNewWorld wrote:
Ryan H. Turner wrote:
FluteOfTheNewWorld wrote:What's a drill down... lol
Are you serious? I'll assume you are.

The basic definition is taking a group of people and having them "en masse" execute a series of standing commands, such as attention, parade rest, facings, horns up, horns down, etc. You can even have moving commands as well, such as "forward...hut", "backwards...hut", "to the right flank...hut", etc. The drill down is an honor system, so if you make a mistake of any kind, you are supposed to take yourself out. Normally on drill downs the people that take themselves out stand at attention in front of the people that are still in and watch. Other times I've allowed them to watch and cheer. That's always fun too.
Oh ok.. yeah we do that... but in the flute section don't have a name for it other than the marching simon says.
Hahahaha... it sounds more fun and less intimidating that way! :D

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Post by bugledog » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:09 pm

if you are calling and you make a mistake
"Belay my last"
is what you say to cancel the command.


to send them back to where they were
"as you were"
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Post by sokkerboie » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:09 pm

I think "as you were" is a command back to the person calling the command that he/she gave an incorrect command and for him/her to give the correct command. I think it has more to do with the command giver than the body receiving the command (as would be "as I was").
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Post by Tobias087 » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:47 pm

haha, its very interesting to read about this. i suppose our band (the North Hollywood HS Royal Regiment) must have done all of this at one point, but now we dont, and only fragments of it are still taught. for example, we still teach attention and parade rest (which we never use), but we stopped teaching at ease and as you were 3 or 4 years ago, although they never found their way off the list of things to teach. we were confused about what "as you were" was until somebody looked it up on wikipedia, and an older member said "oh yeah, i remember now"

nobody's really sure about "at ease" though...

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Post by sokkerboie » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:44 am

I love the at ease command as an educational tool. When giving instructions or working on drill, etc. the students are at attendtion. When we finish a phrase my students remain at attention until told to relax/go to at ease or parade rest (two different states of relax for the students). At ease means the students can release from their phsical posturing while parade rest has a specific posture and the students are still focused for instructions. At ease/relax means they can fully release, move around and talk some. Then we call them to attention or "set" to begin again.

I think students need both the parade rest and at ease commands to maintain focus in a rehearsal.
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