Phantom's Weekly NFL PowerRankings

Hostrauser · Post by **Hostrauser** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:25 am

Just something new I'm trying out...

TOP 5 NFL TEAMS:
1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3. Indianapolis Colts
4. Denver Broncos
5. Seattle Seahawks

Top 5 NFL Offenses:
1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Kansas City Chiefs
3. Kansas City Chiefs
4. Seattle Seahawks
5. Denver Broncos
(sorry, only three teams are worthy of this list so far)

Top 5 NFL Defenses:
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2. Carolina Panthers (tie)
2. Indianapolis Colts (tie)
4. Denver Broncos
5. Seattle Seahawks

Hostrauser · Post by **Hostrauser** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:34 am

Oh yeah, forgot these...

Worst 5 NFL Teams:
28. Jacksonville Jaguars
29. San Diego Chargers
30. New York Jets
31. Philadelphia Eagles
32. Chicago Bears

formermarcher · Post by **formermarcher** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:45 pm

You know, I agree.
I don't know about the offenses...the teams you mentioned have all had blowouts, but thats not what its about.

If it were me, I'd put the Redskins on that offense list. I mean, Ramsey...look at him. The team (offense) is just playing good. The whole thing is good. And if you want to talk stats, the Skins are top offense after 3 weeks.

But as for worst teams, I totally agree.

My top teams would have to be the exact same as yours...I just tried to make a listof my own and I had the exact same teams you did, but in a different order.

Hostrauser · Post by **Hostrauser** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:33 pm

formermarcher wrote:If it were me, I'd put the Redskins on that offense list. I mean, Ramsey...look at him. The team (offense) is just playing good. The whole thing is good. And if you want to talk stats, the Skins are top offense after 3 weeks.

You're completely crazy, you know that?

The Redskins only managed 16 point against the Jets, and 21 against the Giants. True, they lead the league in YARDS, but it's POINTS that win games.

Washing Redskins offense, NFL Ranking after Week 3:
Total Yards per game: 1st
Passing Yards per game: 3rd
Rushing Yards per game: 7th
Points per game: 11th
Penalties: 31st (35 penalties, only the Raiders have more)
Turnover ratio: 25th (-3)

Sure, they're a GOOD offense. I'm not trying to say they suck. But one of the best in the league? Eh, not quite. They're still too undisciplined: too many turnovers, too many penalties.

And I'll take Trent Green over Patrick Ramsey any day.

(Oh, and if you're wondering where I'm finding all these crazy stats)
http://www.nfl.com/stats

Hostrauser · Post by **Hostrauser** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:58 pm

Instead of starting 8 million different threads, I'm just going to keep updating this one...

TOP 5 NFL TEAMS:
1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3. Indianapolis Colts
4. Seattle Seahawks
5. Minnesota Vikings

Top 5 NFL Offenses:
1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Indianapolis Cotls
3. Minnesota Vikings
4. Seattle Seahawks
5. Green Bay Packers

Top 5 NFL Defenses:
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2. Carolina Panthers (tie)
3. Seattle Seahawks
4. Miami Dolphins
5. Indianapolis Colts

Worst 6 NFL Teams:
27. Jacksonville Jaguars
28. San Francisco 49ers
29. Oakland Raiders
30. San Diego Chargers (tie)
30. New York Jets (tie)
32. Chicago Bears
(6 teams, because there's no way I could leave any of these horrible teams out.)

Hostrauser · Post by **Hostrauser** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:42 pm

Another week, another set of rankings...

TOP 5 NFL TEAMS:
1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3. Indianapolis Colts
4. Minnesota Vikings
5. Miami Dolphins

Top 5 NFL Offenses:
1. Kansas City Chiefs
2. Indianapolis Colts
3. Minnesota Vikings
4. Green Bay Packers
5. Dallas Cowboys

Top 5 NFL Defenses:
1. Carolina Panthers
2. Miami Dolphins
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4. Indianapolis Colts
5. Dallas Cowboys

Worst 5 NFL Teams:
28. New Orleans Saints
29. Arizona Cardinals
30. Oakland Raiders
31. New York Jets (tie)
31. San Diego Chargers (tie)

DJ-PsiLon · Post by **DJ-PsiLon** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:53 pm

Yeah go Chargers!!! Go for a negative perfect season!!!!!

formermarcher · Post by **formermarcher** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:03 pm

Well although I am happy that someone as esteemed as Phantom has put my Cowboys on his better list, I will point out to him that thier schedule is no longer easy.

MsNikki · Post by **MsNikki** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:12 pm

Phantom Phan wrote:Worst 5 NFL Teams:
30. Oakland Raiders

Oh joy ... GoOoO Raiders. wHoO, we suck. Ah well. One thing I can't stand is those who switch favorites to whatever team is winning. Says something about a person.

formermarcher · Post by **formermarcher** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:21 pm

MsNikki wrote:
Phantom Phan wrote:Worst 5 NFL Teams:
30. Oakland Raiders
Oh joy ... GoOoO Raiders. wHoO, we suck. Ah well. One thing I can't stand is those who switch favorites to whatever team is winning. Says something about a person.

I can't agree with you more in every aspect of your statement.
Take me for instance, a HUGE Cowboys fan.
I grew up watching them win, but when they did really bad, I wasn't such a forthcoming fan. Now they are playing better than they have been and I'm out on the lines again!

But for when they do bad, thats why ya have a back-up favorite team (for me, its the skins...not a good choice but I grew up watching them win too).

Hostrauser · Post by **Hostrauser** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:05 am

formermarcher wrote:Well although I am happy that someone as esteemed as Phantom has put my Cowboys on his better list, I will point out to him that thier schedule is no longer easy.

Well, I base my rankings on what's happened so far, no what's going to happen in the future.

To be honest, both of the Cowboys next two games (home vs. Philadelphia and at Detroit) are very winnable. Dallas could be 5-1 before the schedule gets really ugly. The absolute BEST I think they can do in their last 10 games is 4-6. But hey, 5-1 + 4-6 = 9-7, which would put them in decent shape for a playoff bearth.

formermarcher · Post by **formermarcher** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:22 am

Did you know that a few years back the Cowboys started 3-0 and actually finished 8-8? They still made the playoffs that year...because the entire NFC was screwed up...but thats besides the point.

Point is, the Cowboys have a tendency of losing what they should win. Sure they have thier moments, and I'll admit I am impressed (and happy) with their performance.

I honestly do not think they will beat Philly. However, this is a home game for Dallas, and with the way the Cowboys have been playing, they might actually have fan support.

There are things I can say that are not stat-related, like the last time the Cowboys were atop the NFC East (they had beaten the Cardinals as well), and I believe the finished 5-11.
History would indicate the Cowboys will blow this excellent start, and I quite believe they will.

But thats just me, and I don't know all that much about football compared to some other people.

Hostrauser · Post by **Hostrauser** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:27 pm

formermarcher wrote:I honestly do not think they will beat Philly. However, this is a home game for Dallas, and with the way the Cowboys have been playing, they might actually have fan support.

I honestly think they might. It's a tough call and should be a close game. Dallas' defense has been aces so far this season, but they should get a good test from McNabb and the Eagles. On the other side of the ball, the Eagles' defense remains devastated by injuries, so Dallas has a chance to capitalize there. I predict a high scoring game, with the final score something like 31-28 or 35-31, but either team could win.

formermarcher · Post by **formermarcher** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:33 pm

This is what I see with McNabb and when Vick plays, Vick:

McNabb can run, and run well. If the Cowboy's defense drops back to zone, McNabb can run for 10 yards before meeting a defender. If the Cowboys play man-on-man, McNabb can easily pass, because one on one match-ups are not a strong point.

Hostrauser · Post by **Hostrauser** » Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:02 pm

formermarcher wrote:This is what I see with McNabb and when Vick plays, Vick:

McNabb can run, and run well. If the Cowboy's defense drops back to zone, McNabb can run for 10 yards before meeting a defender. If the Cowboys play man-on-man, McNabb can easily pass, because one on one match-ups are not a strong point.

The thing is, McNabb can run, and run well... and he can pass, and pass well... but he can't run and pass well at the same time. Very few quarterbacks can. Get the quarterback scrambling and his completion percentage will drop like a stone.

Dallas needs to play a lot of 4-3 and Nickel package, a lot of Cover 2s, Under 2s, and Under 4s. They also need to keep blitzing. Philadelphia's receivers are not that spectacular. Get McNabb on the run and force the Eagles' wideouts to make the plays.

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