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Hostrauser wrote:

mkosbie wrote:I've decide to leave it for comic affect.

Comic effect.

HA!

mkosbie wrote: Individuals who cheat, and cannot live up to the degree they supposedly have, mar the reputation of the institution they came from. I'll bet you FSQ will hesitate before hiring another graduate of whatever school her first mistake came from. His cheating negatively impacted the value of his entire school's degrees.

Actually ... no I didn't and won't. He graduated from Fresno. My neice graduated the same year magna cum laude. There were many grads from Fresno before and after this guy who we hired. My opinion and respect of him as a person was impacted far more than my opinion of the school or area of the country.

Also, regarding the Harvard/Cal Poly comparison ... that would depend on which "School" you are enrolled in, if you were Honors, and the ranking of the department's education "value", national ranking in that industry, and the job a person were going for. I knew a Vice President of Mitsubishi who had a BA in U.S. History from CSUF. It didn't apply to his job in any way shape or form (Business Admin would have been better), but he was a GREAT VP. On the other hand, I worked for a Harvard Master's grad cum laude who was the most boring and ill informed creature on the planet. My opinion of those schools was not changed because of these two.

Here are the questions:

(The boring two)
How do students rationalize cheating?
I would say that the reason the kid would cheat is if he didn't understand the material. So he learned a new skill. Just no the right one.
What are the consequences?
Consequences, well letting yourself become lazy.


Do you look worse on people for cheating?
No.
How about tattle-telling?
No
Do the risks of cheating out-weigh the benefits
Depends on how good you are at it.

cheating is basically a huge risk...you only cheat if you don't know the material...or if you didn't give a crap...plain and simple

Ex Nihilo wrote:

IsnipeWithAknife wrote:HS HW is busywork

AMEN!

i plan on being a teacher and i vow never to give pointless busywork.

You'll do what your principal tells you to do.

LoyalTubist wrote:

Ex Nihilo wrote:

IsnipeWithAknife wrote:HS HW is busywork

AMEN!

i plan on being a teacher and i vow never to give pointless busywork.

You'll do what your principal tells you to do.

Heed his words.

Teach college instead.

I just finished a university teaching contract. You still have to do what they tell you but... you have a lot more freedom (even in Vietnam!)