The 2007 College Football Thread! (Formerly Bruins vs. Utes)

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The 2007 College Football Thread! (Formerly Bruins vs. Utes)

Post by The Aceman » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:29 pm

Final Score:
UCLA: 6
UTAH: 44

Take that Bruins fans! 8-)

Once again the nation underestimates the Mountain West Conference.

TCU - Unranked
BYU - Unranked
UTAH - Unranked

UCLA - Ranked 11th

Utah is projected to finish 3rd in the Mountain West conference to TCU and BYU, so the 11th ranked UCLA team got beat by the projected third best team in a completely unranked conference. Just an upset or a highly misranked conference? Utah plauged with several key players injured too.
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Post by Chapagne » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:50 pm

No...the nation overestimated UCLA.

BYU: 1-1 record, losing to Tulsa right now.
TCU: 1-2 record
Utah: 1-2 record

Do you honestly think these teams should be ranked with those records?

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Post by The Aceman » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:33 am

Chapagne wrote:No...the nation overestimated UCLA.

BYU: 1-1 record, losing to Tulsa right now.
TCU: 1-2 record
Utah: 1-2 record

Do you honestly think these teams should be ranked with those records?
Yeah 2 and 3 game records don't mean anything, too early in the season, and has next to nothing to do with the rankings. Just wait until later in the season.
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Post by Hostrauser » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:16 pm

The nation BADLY overestimated UCLA, and indeed much of the PAC-10. The PAC-10 has three great teams (USC, Cal, Oregon), three "good" teams (Washington, UCLA, Arizona St.), and four mediocre teams (Oregon St., Washington St., Stanford, Arizona). It's still one of the toughest conferences out there, though, and could easily send five or six schools to bowls.

But seriously, 44-6 to a previously winless team from a mid-major conference? Ugh-lee.

Other thoughts:
-- Notre Dame might be the worst team in football, no exaggeration. Their offense ranks 120th out of 120 Division I-A (FBS) teams, even behind Florida International, they of the nation's longest losing streak (15 games). I mean, really, negative rushing yards on the season after three whole games? Disgusting. And their defense sucks, too. I've heard some Irish apologists say that their defense is actually not too bad, just tired from being on the field all the time. Baloney. They let Michigan score 31 points in the first half and are giving up over 20 points per game in the first half so far this season. That's terrible. Notre Dame will end the season 2-10 or 3-9, and really might start 0-8.
-- Watch out for Rutgers. The Scarlet Knights will go 11-1 or 12-0 and find themselves in the BCS. They are really, really good and really balanced: they can pass, run and play defense. They only have four road games all year (one at Louisville, who maybe isn't so tough) and get USF and West Virginia (their toughest conference foes) at home.
-- Speaking of which, watch out for USF and Cincinnati, too. Two great teams few people are talking about. The Big East is a VERY underrated conference this year: Rutgers and West Virginia are Top 10 caliber, and Louisville, USF, and Cincinnati are Top 25 caliber. That's five of eight teams in the conference that are Top 25 material. The eight teams are a combines 18-5, and all but Syracuse have a legitimate shot at making a bowl.
-- Nope, I'm not impressed with Oklahoma yet. Who have they beaten? (And don't say "Miami"; this isn't the 1990s, Miami is a very mediocre team.) Blowing out North Texas and Utah State doesn't impress me. But Oklahoma has a really, really easy schedule and will easily finish 12-1 or 13-0, win the Big XII and maybe play for the national championship.
-- Bank on it right now: the winner of the Florida at LSU game on October 6th will be one of the teams in the BCS Championship. I guarantee it. (I'm picking LSU: Florida has a brutal schedule. Florida's last four road games are all against ranked conference opponents: at LSU, at Kentucky, at Georgia, at South Carolina. Ouch.)
-- I'm not buying the five ranked teams bit: the Big XII is the weakest BCS conference. Oklahoma's at least Top 10 worthy. Texas is overrated and will finish in the 10-20 range. Texas A&M, Nebraska, and Missouri are all overrated and won't be in the ranking by season's end.
-- Bad, bad, bad conferences (combined record of all teams in conference): Mountain West (11-14), Conference USA (10-20), Mid-American (12-26), Sun Belt (4-18). What's that? These are all the mid-major conferences the BCS teams feast on at the start of the season? Why hey, you're right, there is no parity in the college game!
-- Road Upset of the Week: Washington will travel to LA and defeat UCLA in the Rose Bowl.
-- Home Upset of the Week: Michigan will take down #10 Penn State in Ann Arbor.

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He knows football too?

Post by jacjar1 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:29 pm

Nice review of college football!

Overrated Teams
Notre Dame
UCLA
Michigan
Ohio State
or anyone in the big 10
Nebraska - The final score was not the full story. All those garbage points dont matter
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Re: He knows football too?

Post by seanrj » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:23 pm

jacjar1 wrote:Nice review of college football!

Overrated Teams
Notre Dame
UCLA
Michigan
Ohio State
or anyone in the big 10
Nebraska - The final score was not the full story. All those garbage points dont matter
Regarding Michigan, perhaps App State and Oregon are just THAT good. They dropped 38 points on ND while shutting them out.

ND: They are getting what they deserve. They ran Lou Holtz out because he was getting too close to Rockne's record, and then they ran out Ty Willingham (one heck of a coach BTW) because he was not winning the national champions hip with Devine's crummy players... Notice how well Chucky Weis did well with Ty's team, but is now eating it with his players and system? Comedy. Total comedy.
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Re: He knows football too?

Post by Hostrauser » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:50 am

seanrj wrote:Regarding Michigan, perhaps App State and Oregon are just THAT good. They dropped 38 points on ND while shutting them out.
I think Oregon might just be THAT good, but the Appalachian State game was just one of those fluke things (Michigan underestimated them) and Notre Dame is just THAT bad.

Bottom line, Michigan isn't as bad as they looked against Oregon, but not as good as they looked against Notre Dame.

Here's my list of possibly under-rated, surprise teams this season. Keep an eye on...

Cincinnati
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan State
Tulsa
Washington
Wyoming

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Post by seanrj » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:39 pm

Actually, App State had won 2 national championshipsin their division and had a 15 game winning streak. They know how to win, and they expected to win. That is the difference.
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Re: He knows football too?

Post by jacjar1 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:49 am

Hostrauser wrote:
seanrj wrote:Regarding Michigan, perhaps App State and Oregon are just THAT good. They dropped 38 points on ND while shutting them out.
I think Oregon might just be THAT good, but the Appalachian State game was just one of those fluke things (Michigan underestimated them) and Notre Dame is just THAT bad.

Bottom line, Michigan isn't as bad as they looked against Oregon, but not as good as they looked against Notre Dame.

Here's my list of possibly under-rated, surprise teams this season. Keep an eye on...

Cincinnati
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan State
Tulsa
Washington
Wyoming
Yes in fact Washington may shock the bruins this week. They are a well coached team. UCLA is so inconsistent..Maybe Dorrell's time is up?
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Post by The Aceman » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:16 pm

I'm actually suprised by how well Air Force is doing. 3-0 so far on the season. They have a very easy schedule the rest of the season too, so mark them down for a suprise bowl spot. I wouldn't be suprised to see an outstanding W/L record at the end of the season.

Note: I changed the name of the thread to fit the discussion.
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