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Author:  OrangeCountyIndy [ Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

Ok how about this. Lots of changes coming, some not posted, lets see . . .

wow!

Author:  teubner8va [ Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

OrangeCountyIndy wrote:
VK not going to finals and looking for an all new staff

I would like to know where you got this information from? Because I bet they haven't even thought about what their tour scheduale is going to be like for this year since they haven't seen it yet

Author:  Bandmaster [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

OrangeCountyIndy wrote:
There are tons of changes:

Murray Gussik to Academy
Paul Rennick to SCV
New guy at Blue Knights (can't remeber his name)

Lots of change in Open also:

VK not going to finals and looking for an all new staff
Racine Scouts with some strong new people in Percussion
Raiders looking for new Percussion staff
City Sound comming on strong, but looking for new visual staff

DCA Corps making changes too:

Excelsior looking for new staff all around
SoCal Dream looking for mostly new staff
Who knows what will happen to Renegades

Here the winds . . .


How about this concept... PLEASE REPORT ONLY ACTUAL FACTS NOT RUMORS!!!!!!

Words are cheap.... everyone else gave links to the actual press release... you give us only rumor! Stop or go away!

Author:  confucious [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

Very well put Dave.......give at least links to press releases for all this "wealth of information" you claim to have, or go away

Author:  cymtech [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

sounds like theres a lot of angry VK ppl in here....

Author:  Brad [ Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

Oh boy, another one... :box:

Author:  Bandmaster [ Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

confucious wrote:
Very well put Dave.......give at least links to press releases for all this "wealth of information" you claim to have, or go away


The fact that he has only made two postings so far is the dead give away... either he is new and just doesn't know any better, or he made a new account so he could drop bombs and duck!


cymtech wrote:
sounds like theres a lot of angry VK ppl in here....


Cymtech, it seems you don't when to keep your fingers shut... don't push your luck or I'll ask you to go away too!

Author:  confucious [ Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

cymtech wrote:
sounds like theres a lot of angry VK ppl in here....


:roll: :roll: I have to laugh, how did this thread get to be about SUPPOSEDLY "VK angry people", this is hilarious indeed. Again, why don't we wait until actual press releases are made? :roll: :roll:

Author:  cymtech [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

Bandmaster wrote:

cymtech wrote:
sounds like theres a lot of angry VK ppl in here....


Cymtech, it seems you don't when to keep your fingers shut... don't push your luck or I'll ask you to go away too!


looks like they got a board. there are still spots open if anyone is interested in being on it. ignore the bad grammar in the press release. also, if you want to be on staff you can email them. good luck!

http://www.vkyao.org/2011bod.pdf

Author:  Bandmaster [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

cymtech wrote:
Bandmaster wrote:

cymtech wrote:
sounds like theres a lot of angry VK ppl in here....


Cymtech, it seems you don't when to keep your fingers shut... don't push your luck or I'll ask you to go away too!


looks like they got a board. there are still spots open if anyone is interested in being on it. ignore the bad grammar in the press release. also, if you want to be on staff you can email them. good luck!

http://www.vkyao.org/2011bod.pdf


Cymtech, apparently you don't understand how 501C3's work. They ALL have a board of directors that must hold elections every year. How many changes to the board of directors of the other corps do you see posted here? None, why? Because the board members usually aren't instructors that teach the kids! The "Staff" is the instructors that work with the members and design and teach the show. It's the STAFF that people want to know about! But no ,you want to stir up trouble for a group for whatever reason. Please grow up or go away!!! You are making yourself look like a jerk... oh wait... maybe you are one!

Author:  cymtech [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

the longevity of a non profit organization has far more to do with the board of directors than it does with the staff. i have seen many groups with great staffs fold because of mismanagement at the board level. im not saying that the VK board is incompetent. im simply pointing out the poorly written press release advertising their search for another board member. honestly, the errors made in the release arent huge... they are more in line with something that was never proofread.

you can call me a jerk, thats fine.

Author:  Bandmaster [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

Cymtech, you STILL do not understand... WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD? It is NOT Post-season board of directors changes.

I have had many requests from other people on this forum to block your access to it because you like to rub people the wrong way... but I keep resisting the urge to do that. You never post information meant to HELP an organization... you only post information meant to make it harder for organizations. Why is that? What do you have against VK? I am coming closer to giving into the urge....

Author:  confucious [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

Dave poses an interesting question to you "cymtech", I would love to read that answer :lol:

Author:  cymtech [ Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

dave,

ive posted numerous times in the past in full support of organizations. i refuse to support organizations in which i know people that have participated and had negative experiences. obviously every group out there has at least a couple participants that didnt enjoy the group... thats obvious. unfortunately, i have heard from far too many people that there have been some questionable decisions/teaching practices there in the past.

when a student of mine comes back from a summer season and tells me that they never want to go back, i get concerned. i take it with a grain of salt because i know how kids are. but when adults come back and verify the same instances i realize there is a bigger issue. everything that has been posted as far as staff changes there are true from what i have heard and discussed with people directly involved in the group.

its hard when something you love isnt what it used to be.

Author:  Bandmaster [ Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Post-season staff changes

Brandon (Cymtech), I have had friends and students that have had bad experiences with corps that have finished in the top 6 and have been well run for many years. Crap happens sometimes, people are only human, so I tend to look at the oranization over several years of activity. Maybe I should hold it against you that one of the groups you teach just went inactive, since after all, their board must not be doing a good job! Maybe the folks at PC would like to know what you post on public forums, since your actions reflect on them?

Do youself a favor and quit digging a deeper hole. If you give me one more lame excuse for behaving like a jerk I will have no choice except to turn off your account. It's your choice....

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