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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 9:09 am 
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i think Pasadina college preformed a good show, but im glad our pet(with me:) and our basess took them caption awards, congrats to pasadina college for their scores:)


Thanks! I wish I was able to see your show...heard you guys rocked.

Congrats on high pit & basses & your scores! :D


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hey, xxiwantubabexx. are you the trumpet girl from Johnson or Stacy from last year? I work at Westminster, im the drumline instructor. Hey thanks about all the great comments, to bad you couldnt come down to Wesminster, it was a fun season. Im also teaching at Hawthorne, those kids are the best.


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as far as Santa Fe champs, the site was terrible, no place to march your drill. some groups did go on the grass in the back and others in the gym, but hey just like WGI, first come first serve. I really hope champs is not their next year because their wasent any room at all to march. It should be at a school with a lot of open area and hopefully not way out in the dessert. I guess will see what happens when they announce the show sites for next season.


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drummermom wrote:
drumgirlniki,

I think you've nailed exactly how the caption awards went -- that was my observation, too. To me, the caption awards said that there were some standout individual section performances that were worthy of recognition, whether or not the full line rose to that standard. I thought the snare drummers from PV Peninsula in Scholastic A were awesome -- it didn't surprise me at all to see them win captions, and I've always thought Huntington Beach had great tenors and cymbals. I don't think the two (captions and placements) always tie together, since one is an individual section evaluation and the other one is the overall performance of the line.

congratulations!


I also thank you too. I'm the drum captain and snare from PV Peninsula. I agree with you about how captions and placements don't tie together all the time. My snare buddy and I have been on snare for quite a while and we are both seniors and I think we won the caption because of our experience(and hard work :D ). However, the rest of the line are mostly freshmens and sophmores who lacks experience(although they all worked really hard). So that's probably the reason why we did not do so well at championships. Our line is still growing and I'm sure they will become a better line next year. So please be ready for the PV drumline 2005! :wav:


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Hey person from La Quinta, you said that you have the same instructor as Sante Fe? Who is your intructor? Just curious.


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just curious where you heard that from. As much as i believe you i want to hope its not there next year. it was not a good school to have Champs at.


I've heard that championships is a 2 year committment.

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well AB Miller was 2 years. but it seems that the years before that were always different and the way they did divisions was different. the 2 year commitment may be a new thing they have.

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I agree that it was a very bad school to host at.... Small gym seating-wise, the a/c problem was bad, and there wasn't a lot of open space for groups with drill. Now, not taking anything away from the students and parents running the show, it was run very well.... it was just a bad school to host Championships at... now, a normal show, yes it's okay, but not such a large-scale event like Championships.


My director said that they normally do a 2-year committment, but there was "drama" with Santa Fe hosting, and it might not be there next year. I really feel, from a performer's perspective, that our school A.B. Miller is the best place to host Championships, but I'm not saying that because it's my school. It's just a good location to host a show. There's a lot of open space for lines to run drill, 2 parking lots, a big gym with a lot of seating on both sides, air condition in the gym (!!!), and it's not too far from most competing schools.

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 Post subject: Colored divisions at championships
PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:34 pm 
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Dan,
FYI -
While "colored" divisions (red, blue, etc) are assigned arbitrarily at most circuit shows throughout the season, they are not "drawn out of a hat" (not a quote) for finals. Colored subdivisions of each larger division are divided based on the average of your two highest scores that season. That way, the last division represents those lines who typically had the highest scoring shows up until then. There are several ways to divide up divisions like this, and this was debated heavily at circuit forum (which all instructors/directors are invited to) last year. All in all, the main reason for the subdivisions was to avoid any line going home with something like, "33rd place", so I think that goal was accomplished.


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 Post subject: Caption Awards explained
PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:42 pm 
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Okay, here's my annual explanation of how caption awards are distributed:

A fourth judge is used to watch captions only. His scores and criteria are completely seperate from the other three judges, and his numbers are NOT used in the lines total score. Usually, but not always, there is a relationship between caption scores and a line's placement that goes one of two ways - 1) the line has many outstanding sections who are featured well throughout a well - designed overall show. They win one or more caption awards and the line place well, 2) the line has one or more outstanding sections who stand out because they are featured more than the other sections, or because they really do perform better than the rest of the line (for a variety of reasons). They win one or more caption awards, but the line does not tend to place highly.

That's basically the way it seems to work out. Looks like several of you on this board have a good handle on the concept, but I thought I'd explain it for the rest.


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 Post subject: Warm ups at championships
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Apparently, all of the tennis court area was to have been made available for warm ups, and it wasn't until Thursday night the week of championships that the association was made aware of the fact that there was going to be hockey or anything else going on in that area. Otherwise, this school would not have been selected.


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 Post subject: Championship site
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(guess I could've done these all in one post, but oh well)

First of all, let me start by saying what a great job the folks who were at Santa Fe High did on both days with what they had to work with. For everyone else, you've got to understand that they were without their band director since Wednesday of that week, and a LOT of loose ends that normally would've been taken care of apparently went unattended to until we all stumbled over them. Even my own line had major problems with the lack of proper directions and logistics, but we were the first group on - things improved as the weekend went on.

While it is nice to keep the championship show at the same site for two years in a row, there is no written policy as such. The championship show next year will be in a different location. Thanks to everyone who worked hard at making things work smoother that weekend.


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