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Author:  cabandgeek [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:32 pm ]
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So for Open we have Vallejo, Rodriguez, Del Oro, Foothill, Fairfield, and Benicia competing this year at Champs. Any predictions on who will be 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th? Seems like Foothill will win Champion.

Author:  mrbrianplowman [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:03 pm ]
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Don't count out Hogan. :)
Just kidding........... I do miss there performances from late 90's/early 2000's A powerhouse they were.

Author:  SherlocK [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:51 pm ]
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hmmm...

1. Foothill
2. Benicia
3. Vallejo
4. Rodriguez
5. Del Oro
6. Fairfield

Really though i think 2-6 are very interchangeable.

Author:  cabandgeek [ Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:24 pm ]
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Interesting...I would say Benicia's product this year is not quite like previous years...My predictions would be,

1) Foothill
2) Rodriguez
3) Fairfield
4) Del Oro
5) Vallejo
6) Benicia

Your thoughts SherlocK?

Author:  Psalm 56 [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:04 am ]
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"Open" is cool but the world does not revolve around it! :wink:

Because I have bias, I can not give order of placement....so I will give the top four ADVANCED ALPHABETICALLY.... again for those who missed it:

"ADVANCE" ALPHABETICAL ORDER - TOP FOUR OUT OF THE 23 OR SO LINES THAT ARE IN "ADVANCE" THIS YEAR...

AMERICAN CANYON
DUBLIN
LAGUNA CREEK
VINTAGE

Author:  newguy [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:59 am ]
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What about Reno and Damonte... I know they can't take Champs because of qualification issues, but I haven't seen them before... might they be in the top 4?

Author:  Psalm 56 [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:04 pm ]
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My ADVANCE prediction is based on I have seen three of the four and the one of the four I haven't seen...OH MY GOOOOOODNESS....they have had some outstanding scores and numerous FIRST PLACES.

Author:  olledowerdna [ Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:14 am ]
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Go Foothill!!! It's been an incredible season. Can't wait for next year!

:twisted:

Author:  newguy [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:39 am ]
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Pretty good guess on the Advanced Line Up... a really great job by all of these groups

Champs- Vintage 87.025
1st- American Canyon 85.925
2nd- Franklin 85.850
3rd- Laguna Creek 85.300
4th- Dublin 85.075

Author:  Shannon [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:00 am ]
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*** Forget predictions. ****

What happens when 3 judges "predict" (score) that XYZ should be champion in any given division (i.e. Intermediate Percussion) but then one single judge scores that same XYZ school 100 pts below the others, causing them the championship?..... 100 points !!!

Would that be grounds for at least a serious inquiry?

Author:  JCYS [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:21 am ]
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Shannon wrote:
*** Forget predictions. ****

What happens when 3 judges "predict" (score) that XYZ should be champion in any given division (i.e. Intermediate Percussion) but then one single judge scores that same XYZ school 100 pts below the others, causing them the championship?..... 100 points !!!

Would that be grounds for at least a serious inquiry?


Kinda par for the course I'm afraid...

Author:  rudimentalwizard [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:28 am ]
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Author:  newguy [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:33 am ]
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I don't know about an inquiry, but I do like that there are now two judges watching each caption... it really highlights the issues of scoring inconsistencies...

I thought the percussion judges were a little better aligned than the guard judges, but the case you pointed out is pretty severe.

One music judge gave:
A- 815 B- 802 and C- 811

The other music judge gave:
A- 825 B- 730 and C- 716

Seems like the second guy really really liked the "A" group... he had them right up there with a couple of his scores for groups in the advanced division. Huge gap in the score. Certainly had an impact on the final outcome.
The other three judges had A & C very close though... I wouldn't say that they all agreed which one should have been champion. As a matter of fact both Music judges scored group A higher and both GE judges scored group C higher.

Author:  Shannon [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:46 am ]
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JCYS wrote:
Shannon wrote:
*** Forget predictions. ****

What happens when 3 judges "predict" (score) that XYZ should be champion in any given division (i.e. Intermediate Percussion) but then one single judge scores that same XYZ school 100 pts below the others, causing them the championship?..... 100 points !!!

Would that be grounds for at least a serious inquiry?


Kinda par for the course I'm afraid...


Par for the course?....not quite.

I'm beginning to realize that in NCBA this is indeed the type of course we ask our students to play in. However if we look at the reasons a double panel exists at Championships it is precisely to ,at the very least,raise this factual discrepancy to the level of a worthy discussion of at least a 30 seconds at your next meeting. This is not the forum to do so. So I'm over it.

On to Augusta next week. Hopefully not with a different pin placement for each player.

Author:  Psalm 56 [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:02 pm ]
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newguy wrote:
Pretty good guess on the Advanced Line Up... a really great job by all of these groups

Champs- Vintage 87.025
1st- American Canyon 85.925
2nd- Franklin 85.850
3rd- Laguna Creek 85.300
4th- Dublin 85.075


Thank you... I would agree that all these groups did a fantastic job.

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