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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:09 am 
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Ok. That makes sense. I was just trying to point toward this line of though...

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It seems logical, especially since the Arcadia DM's already do something like this at their competition. I think Gladstone copied the idea as well.


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It may just be my code, or the fact that it's 1:30. But what did we (Arcadia) do?

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My comment was in reference to the group routine I have seen Arcadia drum majors do at some of their drum major competitions. They have not done this at all of them but some of the more recent ones.


As for the call for a more educational experience, I am intrigued on how this would be accomplished. I agree Winter guard has flourished tremendously and I am happy to see it. However, the drum majoring activity in California is much different than it is anywhere else in the country. Color guard however, is a national activity. Yes, most bands have drum majors, but their responsibilities vary. Many drum majors across the nation never spin a baton, and if they do, it is not at the same competitive level as some of their counterparts in California. This is not to say that there are not fabulously talented spinners throughout the nation!

As for comparing the solo competitions of Tom Peacock to the RSPBA Scottish games, I do not think all of the information has been brought forward. Anyone that has ever competed in the Scottish games knows how much more precedence is put on marching. Because of the vast array of marching styles in California, we allow all marching and spinning styles. These are two completely different types of competitions, and a fair comparison can not be made.

Our solo circuit openly welcomes new ideas. The show division is a wonderful place for some of these ideas to be attempted. Difficulty can only take a drum major so far. The drum major needs to present a complete package, appearance, execution, difficulty, routine construction, and presentation. Difficulty that is not well incorporated or executed will not end in as much credit given to the competitor.

Again, if anyone has any ideas, on how we can update and improve upon our competitions we would be glad to listen. I know that all of the judges on our circuit care greatly for the activity, and want nothing more than to see it flourish. If you have any questions you can leave them here, or contact me at drummajorcomps@gmail.com
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As for comparing the solo competitions of Tom Peacock to the RSPBA Scottish games, I do not think all of the information has been brought forward.


I didn't compare the two circuits. I used RSPBA as an EXAMPLE of a globalized circuit and if it wasn't worded that way, then that is what was intended.

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Anyone that has ever competed in the Scottish games knows how much more precedence is put on marching.


I'd like to see how you came to this conclusion as 40 points are allocated for marching, 40 points for flourishing, and 20 points for dress?

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I am not trying to start an argument here, but the two circuits are completely different.

I have competed in Scottish Circuit for a couple of years. I came to the conclusion I stated after talking to many judges from that circuit, being friends with people that have competed in the circuit for many more years than both of us combined and competing in that circuit myself.

Points can be allocated any way that you want on a score sheet. Just because on paper the two captions have the same amount of points does not mean that they are judged the same way.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on what circuit they like the best. As someone who has competed in both, I think that Tom's circuit really is more open minded to new styles of spinning. I highly recommend that people try out both circuits and see what works for them. I had a fantastic time competing in the games, and recommend them for anyone interested.

Also in reference to your original post, you mentioned that:
"I feel that the solo competition season should be the time to express creativity and the things that can't normally be expressed on parade, since the primary obligation is to the band.

If you look at the purpose of the competitions stated in the rules: The purpose of the competitions is to promote the art of drum majoring. They are a learning experience with efforts to advance the abilities of drum majors in the field of drum majoring

The purpose of the L-pattern is to mimic a parade setting. All moves are to be done as if you have a band following you. If there is no band there is no drum major. I have yet to see a place where the Solo circuit has taken away the possibility to be creative. The guidelines are fairly flexible, you get to perform to your own music, not just a march. You can spin any moves you want, there are no restrictions on free hands, types of moves, and very little on types of signals.

As someone who has competed in many circuits I would say that there is much more room for creativity, and personal interpretation in the solo circuit then there is in any other competitive performing opportunity at this point for drum majors.[/quote]

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This is getting nowhere; it's as if I'm having a conversation with myself, considering you don't read any of my points and do a good job of spinning topics. Good luck with the circuit.

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This is getting nowhere; it's as if I'm having a conversation with myself, considering you don't read any of my points and do a good job of spinning topics. Good luck with the circuit.


Um...I sure wouldn't have responded to your points either, considering half of them seemed to be insults, harsh, or threatening. I was EXTREMELY offended reading most of your posts, and they weren't even directed at me. I'd consider taking it down a notch next time, and then maybe the points will be addressed?

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Getting back on to topic, I have found some people who have show videos from the good ol' days. I will try to get them copied onto digital format, and upload them somewhere that they can be downloaded. Stay tuned for details

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Getting back on to topic, I have found some people who have show videos from the good ol' days. I will try to get them copied onto digital format, and upload them somewhere that they can be downloaded. Stay tuned for details


that would be amazing!

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hey dmjudge im still waiting to hear from you so i can get you the videos

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