The differences:
Well, first and most obvious from the posting is that apparently the WBA has supporters ON THIS BOARD with far less class, a distinct lack of professionalism, and obviously an axe to grind than NCBA people. I DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT believe for an instant that this has anything to do with WBA band directors who are a dedicated and great group of people, it has to do with KIDS-and sometimes staff...not directors, who have unfettered access to this board to air their intolerance.
As NCBA president I had to let these meaningless diatribes go unanswered because of a sense of political correctness. No more! Now that I'm ex-president I'll answer it from my own point of view...without fear that I'm speaking for the NCBA..which I am not and can not..anymore than these kids can speak for the WBA.
OK, first of all, when NCBA was formed in 1991, it was formed by a group of MOSTLY parade band directors who wanted consistancy in the contests which, at that time, were judged by whomever using whatever sheets they wished.
Some of these contests had field, so NCBA judged them too. The same is true of NCBA winterguard and drumline competitions, which were ORIGINALLY formed to "give our parade guard/drum lines" something to do in the off season.
SO...given this fact, it constantly amazes (and disgusts) me to hear all these people whine like a bunch of little girls (and I have a little girl and she doesn't whine this much...) about "why NCBA isn't the WBA and why their winter activities aren't the CCGC or WBI." And most of the whiners are from NCBA groups who have won constantly on the circuit..and been very happy doing so..until they lost once to someone they deemed far beneath their outrageously fine level of DRUM CORPS cloning perfection, and then suddenly they turn on the NCBA with a vengence.
Since the NCBA covers the same geographical territory as the WBA, etc. WHY would we want a DUPLICATE circuit????? It is NOT, repeat, is NOT a competition between the two circuits. The directors "vote with their feet" what they want educationally for their band. The fact is, the NCBA has just as many bands on their circuit..maybe more..than the WBA. Sorry they are not up to your standards. Boo hoo-cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get over it.
To make a blanket comment about the directors in the NCBA as insulting as those made in this post is criminal.
The NCBA deemed long ago that their competitions would have ROOM for everyone, no matter how "pathetically out of date" you "cutting edge" gurus deem them to be. Do you know in many other states, where you have ONE marching organization, and they are "woo hoo cutting edge" oriented, you have two kinds of bands, about 40% who do their best to emulate everything a D & B corps ever did, and the other 60% WHO NO LONGER GO TO COMPETITIONS because "they don't belong." They don't have the staff, the money, or..most importantly..even any interest in doing that kind of stuff. I talked to many directors in Washington state who are in this situation, "we don't do competitions because we aren't into that corps crap." Thats their quote, not mine. This is also true in the east and midwest. You always see and hear about the bands at BOA from those areas..what you don't see is the "other" bands who don't believe in that kind of experience.
The way you guys are so wrapped up in your own pseudo little drum corps world and have no room for any other mode of thought is a bit scary. Maybe instead of "The Manchurian Candidate" we should have "The DCI Candidate." You are so concerned because you think the NCBA's scores are too high. OK, who elected you guys president and said scores have to be the way DCI gives them? Again, and I've said this before, NCBA DOES NOT believe in linear scoring. That is a philosophical decision they made. I'd explain why to you, but you need to be a teacher first.
So if you don't like your band scoring well at your first show if you do a good job, sorry, too bad.
But the point is, if you didn't agree with NCBA, since you have an alternative, why not use it, and shut up. Why bash the "other circuit?" What does that gain you, other than the chance to write your outrageous opinions on a public board?
I'll tell you why. Because the directors who ARE competing on WBA don't have time to write this crap, they are too busy being GOOD directors-just like the directors in the NCBA and the SCSBOA. Its the wannabees who like to write this stuff.
And speaking of that, I have a program to run, kids to teach, and a life to lead.
I realize, and EXPECT this will probably be deleted by the moderators, and thats fine, because this whole thread should have been locked and deleted a long time ago, I thought the days of this kind of trash talking were over on this board. Apparently I was wrong.
JCYS
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Now, if you want to see how a REAL professional writes, watch this-this is my restatement of the first few posts:
"In my opinion, the WBA reflects modern styles better than the NCBA. I feel that the NCBA judging can be a bit dated, and I also feel their scores are a bit inflated considering the trends of other judging organizations." I think the judges in the WBA are better trained in modern trends, particularly from a General Effect standpoint. In competing in the NCBA in the past, I have not always found their comments helpful to me in achieving the things I want for my particular band."
Same point, same statements, a lot more professional and considerate of the dozens of NCBA directors/judges who are out there in the trenches every day working for kids and music education. Save the bullying for the playground, children.
PSS-and DO NOT expect a further reply to this kind of baiting.
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