Maytime Band Review ends in 2004?

[guarddude]

Sometimes you've just got to roll with the times. I remember when Glen Wilson used to go and my sister remembers when Loara and Mater Dei used to go. Let's face it folks, it's all those schools down there in South SD County that come out for it. What big names have gone in the past 5 years? BV yes, but c'mon....no Arcadia, no Thousand Oaks, No RB, No Mt. Carmel, No El Dorado, No Valencia.....no big names.

Just my opinion

GD

[SDAsnareplayer]

You mean to say Bonita Vista "ins't" a big name? Maybe you should go look at the recaps from this years and the past few years Arcadia street scores......

[dr]

hahaha, you gotta be kidding me man. Montebello isn't big enough? How about Notre Dame? Mayfair? Rosemead? all those schools are from LA/Orange County. A couple of years ago we had Benicia, norcal powerhouse come down and they won the small school sweepstakes. Maybe it's not that its all the schools from south SD that go and compete, maybe it's just that all of those schools are good and happen to score high and are on each other's heels? Think about that?

The bands you mentioned are all outstanding groups - no question about it.

But Benicia did not win the small school sweepstakes according to the recaps I have. They were penalized 9.0 points for playing a march not on the approved list. Even without the penalty, though, they would not have won sweepstakes that year. Even Benicia, probably one of the best parade bands in the state, has trouble competing outside their normal competitive circle. Blame it on familiarity, stylistic interpretation, different judging standards - there are as many theories as there are bands. With few exceptions, bands that have established themselves in one "circuit" (for lack of a better word) don't do as well in other "circuits."

[Ryan]

But Benicia did not win the small school sweepstakes according to the recaps I have. They were penalized 9.0 points for playing a march not on the approved list. Even without the penalty, though, they would not have won sweepstakes that year. Even Benicia, probably one of the best parade bands in the state, has trouble competing outside their normal competitive circle. Blame it on familiarity, stylistic interpretation, different judging standards - there are as many theories as there are bands. With few exceptions, bands that have established themselves in one "circuit" (for lack of a better word) don't do as well in other "circuits."

Well maybe your recaps are wrong b/c the trophy says otherwise...Benicia DID win a few years ago.[/quote]

[dr]

Well maybe your recaps are wrong b/c the trophy says otherwise...Benicia DID win a few years ago.

Do you know what year? Maybe I'm looking at the wrong recaps, but I didn't think Benicia had been down that many times in recent years. It's possible the penalty was rescinded but the change isn't reflected on the official recaps.

[Ryan]

2002 Maytime Band Review. Could I see your recap?

[vore]

Benecia won the music award that year, but due to their penalty for not playing a march on the SCSBOA list, they received a large penalty knocking them out of the running for a major placement.

vore

[vore]

Few means "three or more" and a couple means two...

A "few" years ago Benicia won the music award playing BB and CF but not the SS award due to the major penalty. As to 2002, that was a "couple" of years ago...

vore

[LTL'98]

The year was 2002, the march was
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and yes Benicia DID walk away with the Sweepstakes trophy that year. I remember... cause we had to send the trophy back a year later (although it would have been nice to try keep it, but a yearly trip to SD would be FAR too harsh on the budget). The reason there was no penalty was because we petitioned extreamly earily in the year (late 2001) for the march to be put on the list. Hence... no penalty.

[guarddude]

Hmmmmmm.....I think it does say "BV yes" in my post, thus acknowledging BV is a biggie.

GD

[dr]

2002 Maytime Band Review. Could I see your recap?

You're right, Ryan.

John and I referred to the same recaps with the 9.0 penalty. My copy seems to have disappeared or been misfiled, but I did get the recaps from the SCSBOA office last week and they are obviously different than the ones I had. I don't know why.... I was in error - Benicia did win the Small School Sweepstakes in 2002 as well as the music award. Here are the complete recaps:

Saturday, May 4, 2002
Maytime Band Review – National City, CA (SCSBOA)

Bands Class B2
90.05 Foothills MS (Arcadia)
89.85 Oaks MS (Ontario)
86.20 Tetzlaff MS (Cerritos)
81.85 Lemon Grove MS
79.30 Montgomery MS (San Diego)
Auxiliary Class D2
78.60 Foothills MS
77.80 Oaks MS
73.05 Montgomery MS
72.50 Tetzlaff MS
65.20 Lemon Grove MS

Bands Class B1
88.55 Bonita Vista MS (Chula Vista)
88.00 Castle Park MS (Chula Vista)
86.70 Mar Vista MS (San Diego)
85.35 Rancho del Rey MS (Chula Vista)
80.05 Hilltop MS (Chula Vista)
78.75 Chula Vista MS
Auxiliary Class D1
91.40 Rancho del Rey MS
80.55 Bonita Vista MS
78.55 Hilltop MS
72.65 Castle Park MS
68.15 Mar Vista MS
65.80 Chula Vista MS

Bands Class A5
93.10 Benicia
91.35 Notre Dame (Sherman Oaks)
91.20 Mayfair (Lakewood)
87.15 Temple City
83.65 Rosemead
80.65 Mountain View (El Monte)
Auxiliary Class C5
87.60 Rosemead
85.20 Temple City
83.95 Benicia
82.30 Notre Dame
71.90 Mayfair
68.85 Mountain View

Bands Class A4
90.05 Grossmont (El Cajon)
85.20 Mount Miguel (Spring Valley)
80.30 Mar Vista (Imperial Beach) (5.0 pen.)
Auxiliary Class C4
81.20 Mar Vista
74.05 Mount Miguel
63.80 Grossmont

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Bands Class A3
89.45 Burbank
88.60 Castle Park (Chula Vista)
85.00 Hilltop (Chula Vista)
81.15 Arroyo (El Monte)
Auxiliary Class C3
83.90 Castle Park
83.30 Burbank
68.75 Hilltop
65.45 Arroyo

Bands Class A2
94.50 Bonita Vista (Chula Vista)
91.20 Chula Vista
86.45 Eastlake (Chula Vista)
84.15 John A. Rowland (Rowland Heights)
78.45 Los Alamitos
Auxiliary Class C2
96.20 Bonita Vista
93.35 Eastlake
92.15 Chula Vista
75.75 Rowland
72.50 Los Alamitos

Bands Class A1
93.10 Montebello
90.55 Montgomery (San Diego)
82.30 Alhambra
Auxiliary Class C1
91.15 Montgomery
89.80 Montebello
78.40 Alhambra

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Drill Teams Class E2
83.20 Foothills MS
79.60 Oaks MS
75.45 Castle Park MS

Drill Teams Class E1
86.05 Montebello
84.30 Temple City
82.60 Burbank
77.00 Mayfair
74.15 Rowland
68.95 Arroyo

Mace Drum Major Class G2
90.5 Mar Vista MS
88.5 Bonita Vista MS
86.5 Foothills MS
66.5 Castle Park MS
40.5 Chula Vista MS

Mace Drum Major Class G1
95.5 Chula Vista
95.0 Bonita Vista
91.0 Notre Dame
90.0 Castle Park
83.5 Mayfair
80.5 Montgomery
77.0 Benicia
77.0 Arroyo
77.0 Alhambra
73.5 Hilltop
65.5 Burbank
46.5 Mount Miguel

Military Drum Major Class F2
87.5 Tetzlaff MS
82.5 Oaks MS
82.0 Rancho del Rey MS
80.0 Lemon Grove MS
72.0 Hilltop MS
66.0 Montgomery MS

Military Drum Major Class F1
95.0 Montebello
92.0 Temple City
90.0 Mar Vista
80.5 Mountain View
78.0 Eastlake
78.0 Rosemead
77.0 Rowland
65.0 Grossmont
55.0 Los Alamitos

SWEEPSTAKES
Drill Team – 86.05 Montebello
Auxiliary (Classes D2/D1/C5/C4) – 91.40 Rancho del Rey MS
Music (Classes B2/B1/A5/A4) – 458 Benicia
Band (Classes B2/B1/A5/A4) – 93.10 Benicia
Auxiliary (Classes C3/C2/C1) – 96.20 Bonita Vista
Music (Classes A3/A2/A1) – 478 Bonita Vista
Band (Classes A3/A2/A1) – 64.50 Bonita Vista

[LBRSR]

All I can say is what a shame about hearing this news. First All Western and now this, what's next.

I want to thank Edith for allowing the Long Beach Royal Syncopated Drum Corps to march the event last year. It was a lot of fun and we had a great response from a lot of the participating bands. It was fun, also, playing our set in the rain in front of all the students. For now, another great memory in our book.

Glenn
LBRSR