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 Post subject: Re: 2013-2014 Competition March List
PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:55 pm 
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The 8th Darling wrote:
You can find Roll Away Bet on Youtube.

Indeed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh7SWC9COks

Great march. I might even like it better than B.B. & C.F.

Although, just like every other Hume march I've heard, the top half is fantastic and it loses some steam after the trio.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:44 pm 
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Arcadia performed it back in 1996. Andrew Landsford was the drum major. I'm sad that there are very few videos between 1994-1997. Temple City played it a few years after Arcadia did . Tho
se were great years for many bands but very little footage for bands like Mt. Carmel, Rancho Bernardo, Orange Glen, Magnolia, And Rubidoux to name a few.


I was 10 in 1996. This will be my first time hearing Arcadia play it in person! lol :lol:

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Hostrauser wrote:
The 8th Darling wrote:
You can find Roll Away Bet on Youtube.

Indeed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh7SWC9COks

Great march. I might even like it better than B.B. & C.F.

Although, just like every other Hume march I've heard, the top half is fantastic and it loses some steam after the trio.


Has this march made your end of the year rankings before? If not, perhaps a debut ranking in 2013 from Hostrauser for Roll Away Bet!?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:08 pm 
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Luis wrote:
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Cardinal Regime wrote:
Golden Valley High School (Merced) will be playing Roll Away Bet! by James Ord Hume.


Too bad we won't be able to hear it in person down in Southern California!
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I beg to differ, Mr. dr :)


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 Post subject: Re: 2013-2014 Competition March List
PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:15 pm 
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JCYS wrote:
I believe Arcadia under Tom Landes first did the Conqueror in 1980, followed by Magnolia in 1981.

Arcadia first performed The Conqueror in 1975 under the short direction of John Work. Tom Landes's first march at Arcadia was The Conqueror in 1979.

Arcadia picked a great march that isn't played that often. I wish they would play Joyce's 71st NY Regiment. Has Arcadia played Joyce's since 1976?

Arcadia at the 1975 Santa Monica Band Review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZjxP8hoplE

Arcadia Joyce's 71st NY Regiment-1976:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYvxONy2_4g (video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFIhbpbjAhc (audio only)


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Has this march made your end of the year rankings before? If not, perhaps a debut ranking in 2013 from Hostrauser for Roll Away Bet!?

Maybe. I'd never even heard of the march before.

That's what I love about marches: I've listened to THOUSANDS of marches, and yet almost every year I find a good/great new march that I've never heard of before. :yeah:


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Roll Away Bet--
Just listened in the library. Wow! Great low brass parts. March sounds very difficult. Good luck GV...hope you score lots of wins with this one.

I wonder--do directors make their own adaptaptions from the brass band original or are there published editions for full concert band? Maybe the other way around in this case? This march could be an original wind-band work and arranged for brass?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:18 am 
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Roll Away Bet--
Just listened in the library. Wow! Great low brass parts. March sounds very difficult. Good luck GV...hope you score lots of wins with this one.

I wonder--do directors make their own adaptaptions from the brass band original or are there published editions for full concert band? Maybe the other way around in this case? This march could be an original wind-band work and arranged for brass?


Brass Band marches: there are some that are published for both brass and wind bands (ie, BB & CF, Ravenswood, Cossack, etc). Some directors arrange their own. If they do it legally or not, I don't know. It is not particularly difficult to get a publisher to let you arrange for wind band, but you do have to go through the procedure. In the case of "Centaur" (which my band did in 2002 and 2006, and GV did year before last) it helped being friends with the composer, since he not only gave permission for me to arrange it for wind band, but had to get the publisher (Wright & Round) to give him back the rights for the march so that my arrangement could be published by Barnhouse. (although W & R still own the copyright for the brass band version.) It also helped he was the staff editor for W & R for 17 years!).

Molenaar is a major publisher of brass band music & marches that have been arranged for wind band. Although, in my opinion, their arranged marches seem to be pretty slap-dash works, without any particular thought as to what WW instruments get what parts.

Since brass band marches are usually written for contesting by semi professional bands, they are always difficult. I can't think of an "easy" brass band march. Most bands want their own "signature" march..for Black Dyke it is Queensbury. Most of the Swiss Brass bands have had signature marches written for them by Derek Broadbent (Muheldorf, Matzendorf, Tout Feu Tout Flamme, Lenzburg, etc). And some are commissions for occasions (British Bandsman, The Colliers).

The scope of brass band music of all types by major composers is AT LEAST as great, and perhaps even somewhat larger than the scope of wind band music. Many European composers write all their works for brass band AND wind band (and occasionally Fanfare band too)...Fanfare band is basically a brass band with saxophones added. They are popular in Belgium and the Netherlands.

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Very interesting history JCYS...thanks for sharing.

Good luck to all the bands with their fall marching season!


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I agree. This is a march we hardly see a band perform out in the street. Great pick Arcadia!

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Arcadia performed it back in 1996. Andrew Landsford was the drum major. I'm sad that there are very few videos between 1994-1997. Temple City played it a few years after Arcadia did . Tho
se were great years for many bands but very little footage for bands like Mt. Carmel, Rancho Bernardo, Orange Glen, Magnolia, And Rubidoux to name a few.

Coincidently, I believe Rancho Bernardo is also playing the same march from 1996.


I also wish there were more videos from '94-'97. Maybe its time for folks to bust out their parent's old VHS tapes and upload them to YouTube! haha

Either way, it looks like there's a nice diversity of marches this year. It's shaping up to be an exciting year on the street!

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From Antioch:

Belle Of Chicago - J.P. Sousa Antioch HS
Military Escort March - Harold Bennett Tokay HS
The Gladiator - J.P. Sousa Capuchino HS
Cyrus the Grea t - K.L. King Ygnacio Valley HS
March Grandioso - Roland F Seitz Northgate HS
Under the Double Eagle- J.F. Wagner East Union HS
Invictus -K.L. King Deer Valley HS
Arnhem - A. E. Kelly Merced HS
Attila - Julius Fucik Livingston HS
Joyce's 71st Regiment March - Thornton Barnes Boyer Dixon HS
BB & CF - James Ord Hume Archbishop Riordan HS
Fairest of the Fair - J.P. Sousa Freedom HS
British Bandsman and Contest Field - James Ord Hume Buhach Colony HS
Purple Pageant KL King Atwater HS
Boys of the Old Brigade - WP Chambers Armijo HS
Army of the Nile - Kenneth J. Alford Irvington HS
Roll Away Bet! - James Ord Hume Golden Valley HS


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Hostrauser wrote:
The 8th Darling wrote:
You can find Roll Away Bet on Youtube.

Indeed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh7SWC9COks

Great march. I might even like it better than B.B. & C.F.

Although, just like every other Hume march I've heard, the top half is fantastic and it loses some steam after the trio.


The last strain of the march is incredible composing by Hume!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:50 pm 
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JCYS wrote:
Yoda wrote:
Roll Away Bet--
Just listened in the library. Wow! Great low brass parts. March sounds very difficult. Good luck GV...hope you score lots of wins with this one.

I wonder--do directors make their own adaptaptions from the brass band original or are there published editions for full concert band? Maybe the other way around in this case? This march could be an original wind-band work and arranged for brass?


Brass Band marches: there are some that are published for both brass and wind bands (ie, BB & CF, Ravenswood, Cossack, etc). Some directors arrange their own. If they do it legally or not, I don't know. It is not particularly difficult to get a publisher to let you arrange for wind band, but you do have to go through the procedure. In the case of "Centaur" (which my band did in 2002 and 2006, and GV did year before last) it helped being friends with the composer, since he not only gave permission for me to arrange it for wind band, but had to get the publisher (Wright & Round) to give him back the rights for the march so that my arrangement could be published by Barnhouse. (although W & R still own the copyright for the brass band version.) It also helped he was the staff editor for W & R for 17 years!).

Molenaar is a major publisher of brass band music & marches that have been arranged for wind band. Although, in my opinion, their arranged marches seem to be pretty slap-dash works, without any particular thought as to what WW instruments get what parts.

Since brass band marches are usually written for contesting by semi professional bands, they are always difficult. I can't think of an "easy" brass band march. Most bands want their own "signature" march..for Black Dyke it is Queensbury. Most of the Swiss Brass bands have had signature marches written for them by Derek Broadbent (Muheldorf, Matzendorf, Tout Feu Tout Flamme, Lenzburg, etc). And some are commissions for occasions (British Bandsman, The Colliers).

The scope of brass band music of all types by major composers is AT LEAST as great, and perhaps even somewhat larger than the scope of wind band music. Many European composers write all their works for brass band AND wind band (and occasionally Fanfare band too)...Fanfare band is basically a brass band with saxophones added. They are popular in Belgium and the Netherlands.

JS

The original concert band arrangement of Roll Away Bet! By J. Ord Hume is available from Molenaar Publishing however, the instrumentation does not lend itself to the standard American band instrumentation.


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From the Duarte Route 66 Parade:

Clifton MS (Monrovia) – Zacatecas March (Genaro Codina)

El Rancho HS (Pico Rivera) – The American Red Cross (Frank A. Panella)
Rim of the World HS (Lake Arrowhead) – Bravura (Charles E. Duble)
Duarte HSThe Fairest of the Fair (John Philip Sousa)

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