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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:09 am 
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I WAS at the 50th reunion, and having Marino lead us again was indeed so surreal.

I don't know of the incidents in the mid 2000s, but it seemed that 77 was the real last glory year of the band... We dominated everything for nearly a decade. Even took down the Texas bands at La Mesa. Such great memories


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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm 
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... But ... something happened in the mid 2000's (no offense to Bill S) but Loara tanked then and has never recovered.

It was not Bill S's doing, the whole district tanked. Something happened that caused the district to cut back their support and dedication to the music programs overall.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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... But ... something happened in the mid 2000's (no offense to Bill S) but Loara tanked then and has never recovered.

It was not Bill S's doing, the whole district tanked. Something happened that caused the district to cut back their support and dedication to the music programs overall.

I'm sorry if my comment was taken as my blaming Bill. My "no offense to Bill" was an attempt at NOT blaming him but seemed to have fallen short.
... and thank you Dave for the explanation. Many schools and districts had the same issues including ours out here.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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That a shame..... Cuz when i was going there, the band, choir, drama, all the fine arts programs are what kept us off the streets and kept us focused on a common goal....i wish educators realized this


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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:00 pm 
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In regard to Loara at Western States in 1977 they finished first out of 10 Bands.
Total Score 4 Areas Concert, SR, Parade and Field Marching
93.3 Loara
90.4 Castle Park
90.0 Antelope Valley
89.9 Western Heights, OK
89.4 Cortez AZ
88.4 Los Altos
87.5 Helix
87.3 Nampa, ID
84.2 Fairfield
77.8 Bountiful, UT

However in Both 73 and 76, Loara lost the top spot to a TX Band.
School Concert, SR Parade Field Total
Permian 297 285 268.5 292 95.2
Loara 283 271 291 267 92.67
R. E. Lee 291 286 237 275 90.75
Savanna 262 245 261 234 83.50
Helix 253 206 277.5 224 89.04
Vista 240 227 225 262 79.50
Monache 244 204 234 241 76.92

There was no Western States Tournament in 1974 or 1975.
Final Results from the 1973 Tournament were as follows. Scores were lost by the writer
1. Burgess , El Paso, TX
2. Monahans, TX
3. Loara
4. Grossmont
5. Colton
6. Western Heights, OK
7. Monache
8. Maryvale, AZ
9. Nampa, TX.

Loara won the Contest in 1972 beating Bands from AZ, Utah and Orego

Loara finished 2nd to Permian in 1971, but beat out Burgess for second Place.

In 1970 Loara beat out R. E. Lee for the top spot

This was a great contest to take part in and view

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:01 am 
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Percussion Comp?????????????????? I like it. :party:

I have two questions:

1. Is this the first year and event that a SoCal review is having a percussion competition?
2. What is the criteria, standing in place, constant forward movement, etc???


In answer to 1. above, the percussion competition has been a part of the Arcadia activities for many years. When we were first planning the Chino Invitational Band Review back in 1970, Ken Novak, the band director, expressed a desire to provide a similar competition for the other sections of the band. Like the percussion competition at Arcadia, our competition would take place on the football field prior to the start of awards to provide entertainment and rivalry while awaiting the results of the main competition. We held the Brass Fanfare Competition for several years to great acclaim until the number of cancellations forced us to reconsider and eventually cancel that competition. The reasons for the cancellations were related to the extra time involved in choosing/composing the music and the additional rehearsal time, particularly in light of the newly passed Proposition 13 (1978) which changed the game for many groups and events. We have tried to bring the Brass Fanfare Competition back several times over the years, but the time investment involved by the competitors seems to make it prohibitive. We had also planned to introduce a Woodwind Choir Competition, but it never materialized.

So, in answer to the question was 2012 the first year a SoCal event included percussion competition, the answer is no. Arcadia has had this competition at least since 1970. Of course, at that time they did not have a Field Show Competition and they were called the West Arcadia Band Review.

I'm sure this information will all be included in "THE BOOK." :twisted:

Remind me why we are discussing the 2012 Arcadia Festival of Bands....

These types of discussions remind me of how much of SoCal's rich marching band history has been forgotten or lost. It also reminds me how laughable the phrase, "It's always been that way..." truly is. For some reason, it is human nature to assume that history only extends back as far as memory. "The Book" would help to restore, or at least remind" our community of that rich history. It could even spur "innovative" changes or additions based on some of those ideas from the past.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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Bandmaster wrote:
fieldshowqueen wrote:
... But ... something happened in the mid 2000's (no offense to Bill S) but Loara tanked then and has never recovered.

It was not Bill S's doing, the whole district tanked. Something happened that caused the district to cut back their support and dedication to the music programs overall.


Three of our AUHSD parade bands are in the top 11 at Arcadia last year. Savanna recently won a SCSBOA field championship and Western has won medals as well. The programs are all pretty strong and healthy. I'd also invite you out to our District Festival in March if you'd like to see how our kids play. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

As an employee of the AUHSD I feel lots of support. We have wonderful events all year around including a very strong District Honor Band in February and Jazz Showcase in May. As any District, funds around here aren't as strong as they once were across the board…but Music and the Arts still feel the love.


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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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As an employee of the AUHSD I feel lots of support.

Remember, I was commenting on my perceptions about what was happening 10 to 15 years ago. I have noticed a resurgence in the AUHSD the last several years. That is a very good thing.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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... I'm sure this information will all be included in "THE BOOK." :twisted:

:read: :rotf:

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