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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:26 am 
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Although an argument can be made that Arcadia really is essentially the current All-Western, lets try to bring the discussion back on track with this list comparing Arcadia winners and their finish in Long Beach that year:

1955 Montebello HS (1st Place - Class A)
1956 Montebello HS (2nd Place - Class AA)
1957 Montebello HS (5th Place - Class AA) / Baldwin Park HS (Did Not Attend)
1958 Montebello HS (1st Place - Class A)
1959 Mt. Miguel HS (1st Place - Class A)
1960 Montebello HS (3rd Place - Class AA)
1961 Mt. Miguel HS (1st Place - Class A)
1962 Mt. Miguel HS (1st Place - Class A)
1963 -- Cancelled due to JFK Assassination
1964 Azusa HS (1st Place - Class B)
1965 Arroyo HS (Did Not Attend)
1966 Anaheim HS (1st Place - Class A)
1967 Anaheim HS (1st Place - Class A)
1968 Pasadena HS (1st Place - Class AA)
1969 Glendora HS (2nd Place - Class A)
1970 Glendora HS (SWEEPSTAKES)
1971 Loara HS (HONOR BAND)
1972 Glendora HS (2nd Place - Class A)
1973 Loara HS (1st Place - Class A)
1974 Loara HS (Did Not Attend)
1975 Loara HS (SWEEPSTAKES)
1976 Loara HS (SWEEPSTAKES)
1977 Antelope Valley HS (SWEEPSTAKES)
1978 Montebello HS (3rd Place - Class AA)
1979 Antelope Valley HS (2nd Place - Class AA)
1980 Antelope Valley HS (3rd Place - Class AA)
1981 Magnolia HS (SWEEPSTAKES)
1982 Magnolia HS (SWEEPSTAKES)
1983 Mt. Carmel HS (1st Place - Class AA)

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:50 am 
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Of course, all of this will be in THE BOOK.

I'm going to stop now. I think I just heard vore's head explode!


What book might that be??? :rotf:


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An exploding head could really spoil what might otherwise be a really nice day.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:29 am 
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Arcadia HS has marched in the Pasadena Tournament of Roses Parade a total of 14 times (1956, 1963, 1966, 1975, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1985, 1989, 1993, 1998, 2000, 2003, and 2012). Following far behind is Glendora HS (8 times, including 2014), Alhambra HS (7 times), and Mount Miguel HS (7 times).


I'm not so sure about Alhambra and Mount Miguel, but hasn't Arcadia appeared in the Rose Parade 15 times? They also marched in 2008. 2012 marked their 15th appearance. And for Glendora, they marched in the 2010 Rose Parade so 2014 would mark their 9th appearance.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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I can vouch almost 100% for the Mt. Miguel number, as my wife marched in the last of those 7 Rose Parade appearances (1991).

Hasn't Fairfield H.S. from up north been in the parade six or seven times? Seemed like they were going every other year in the 80s and 90s.


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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:12 am 
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I can vouch almost 100% for the Mt. Miguel number, as my wife marched in the last of those 7 Rose Parade appearances (1991).

Hasn't Fairfield H.S. from up north been in the parade six or seven times? Seemed like they were going every other year in the 80s and 90s.


Mt. Miguel must be at least 8 times then, because the years I have are 1966, 1969, 1971, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1979 -- so 1991 makes 8.

The list I received from the Tournament of Roses Music Committee has been far from accurate. For one thing it starts at 1970, but I have another list of just California bands that goes back to 1950.

Fairfield HS appears thrice - 1980, 1994, 2000

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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Luis wrote:
dr wrote:
Arcadia HS has marched in the Pasadena Tournament of Roses Parade a total of 14 times (1956, 1963, 1966, 1975, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1985, 1989, 1993, 1998, 2000, 2003, and 2012). Following far behind is Glendora HS (8 times, including 2014), Alhambra HS (7 times), and Mount Miguel HS (7 times).


I'm not so sure about Alhambra and Mount Miguel, but hasn't Arcadia appeared in the Rose Parade 15 times? They also marched in 2008. 2012 marked their 15th appearance. And for Glendora, they marched in the 2010 Rose Parade so 2014 would mark their 9th appearance.

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I didn't have 2008 on my list but it would have been added by me manually since the list goes only from 1970-2007. Dates after 2007 I added myself. I missed 2008, so that does make 15.

I did not have Glendora marked in the 2010 Rose Parade, so 9 it is. If only we had a central place to keep all those records. Oh, yeah, for now I guess that's me. I can only imagine how many MORE errors or omissions are on these two lists!!

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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dr wrote:
Mt. Miguel must be at least 8 times then, because the years I have are 1966, 1969, 1971, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1979 -- so 1991 makes 8.

The story as it's been told to me is that Mt. Miguel was an "alternate" that year. Originally a military band (Army, I believe) was supposed to be in the parade. However, in October 1990 the Gulf War broke out. In November the military band withdrew, and the Rose Parade was left scrambling to find an alternate with very little time.

I don't know if the alternate candidates were already "on-file" with the committee well in advance, or if they were desperate for a local band because they had to "cold-call" on a short turnaround time. In any event, Mt. Miguel got the spot.


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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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My count from a list shows that the Bonham Brothers Boys Band appeared in the Rose 10 times from 1950 to 1959. They may have also been in the parade before 1950, but I can't find any records showing a list of bands prior to 1950.

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Bonham Brothers Mortuary sponsored the band and it won the Mayors Trophy at the Maytime Band Review in 1951 and 1952 as well as the Mayors Trophy at the All Western Band Review in 1941 and 1951.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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Wow... look at the size of those glockenspiels (bells). Accordions (right) in the marching band... thank goodness things have changed.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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For those who consider West Arcadia/AFOB a de facto southern California band review championship, it is important to realize that prior to about 1980, the Arcadia band review (and the Santa Monica band review) were considered tune-ups for Long Beach, although they were still significant competitions in their own right. And within a period of about five years (somebody confirm the dates please), both Santa Monica and Long Beach were gone. While I'm sure a number of insiders were privy the impending demise of these two competitions, the kids and parents were not.

DR is correct that the band review was initiated by Arcadia business owners. Bringing thousands of high school students was good business and good for the community.

My point is that no matter where you live, don't assume that the local parade, band review, or field show is going to be there next year.

Those events that have been around multiple decades have been lovingly nurtured by a relatively small number of individuals.

Stay involved, so your local event doesn't become another Long Beach, Victorville, Santa Monica, Hawthorne, or Seal Beach.

Whether or not you call Arcadia a "championship", it still isn't a bad place to spend a Saturday in November.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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Stay involved, so your local event doesn't become another Long Beach, Victorville, Santa Monica, Hawthorne, or Seal Beach.



...Rosemead Parade, Montclair Band Review, Santa Fe Springs Band Review, Maytime Band Review, Mission Viejo Band Review, Chula Vista Band Review, La Mesa, Colton Band Review, Autumn Band Review, California Band Review, Pacific States Band Review, Sherman Oaks Band Review, Tournament of Champions, MENC Band Review (Oh wiat! That was SUPPOSED to be a one-time event!), Lester Oaks Memorial Band Review, Chaffey Band Review...a LOT of casualties! (and All will certainly be mentioned if not explained in THE BOOK of voreman. Support your local and distant band reviews. There are virtually no competitions like them outside of California!

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NorCal, too: Las Plumas/Oroville Festivo Band Review, Tracy Band Review, Petaluma Band Review, Ukiah Band Review, Pacific Grove Band Review, Walnut Creek Band Review... I'm sure PGOK could add a bunch more.


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dr wrote:
fidave wrote:

Stay involved, so your local event doesn't become another Long Beach, Victorville, Santa Monica, Hawthorne, or Seal Beach.



...Rosemead Parade, Montclair Band Review, Santa Fe Springs Band Review, Maytime Band Review, Mission Viejo Band Review, Chula Vista Band Review, La Mesa, Colton Band Review, Autumn Band Review, California Band Review, Pacific States Band Review, Sherman Oaks Band Review, Tournament of Champions, MENC Band Review (Oh wiat! That was SUPPOSED to be a one-time event!), Lester Oaks Memorial Band Review, Chaffey Band Review...a LOT of casualties! (and All will certainly be mentioned if not explained in THE BOOK of voreman. Support your local and distant band reviews. There are virtually no competitions like them outside of California!

:gb: :clap2: :clap2: :soap:


Also, the demise of the Monterey Park Band Review.

The passage of Proposition 13 in 1978 led to many cancellations of band reviews by civic groups. The loss of the All-Western Band Review was the result of "in house" fighting between the chairman of the event and the officials in charge of the money - The Tidelands Commission of Long Beach.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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The loss of the All-Western Band Review was the result of "in house" fighting between the chairman of the event and the officials in charge of the money - The Tidelands Commission of Long Beach.

vore 8-)


Grasshoppers, the lesson here is NEVER threaten/challenge the hand that feeds you. It is just possible that you overestimate your own importance and the importance of what you produce to that hand that is feeding you.In this case I understand the reaction/decision was swift and final and we all paid the price.

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 Post subject: Re: 59th Annual Arcadia Festival of Bands - Nov. 17, 2012
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Hostrauser wrote:
NorCal, too: Las Plumas/Oroville Festivo Band Review, Tracy Band Review, Petaluma Band Review, Ukiah Band Review, Pacific Grove Band Review, Walnut Creek Band Review... I'm sure PGOK could add a bunch more.


Manteca/East Union, Clovis, Concord, Westside (Newman), Marching Bands West (Sacramento), Redding, San Mateo......

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