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 Post subject: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:49 pm 
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This is my attempt to compare and adjust scores from competition to competition to create an overall ranking of the competitive environment.

BANDS WILL NOT BE RANKED UNTIL THEY HAVE COMPETED

The sports polls for colleges do a Top 25, so that's what I will do, too.

2011 SCSBOA PARADE RANKINGS AS OF 10/17/11
1. Riverside King H.S., Riverside
2. Diamond Bar H.S., Diamond Bar
3. Henry J. Kaiser H.S., Fontana
4. Glendora H.S., Glendora
5. Arnold O. Beckman H.S., Irvine
6. El Dorado H.S., Placentia
7. Mayfair H.S., Lakewood
8. Garey H.S., Pomona
9. Diamond Ranch H.S., Pomona
10. Valencia H.S., Placentia
11. Montebello H.S., Montebello
12. Notre Dame H.S., Sherman Oaks
13. Don Antonio Lugo H.S., Chino
14. Tustin H.S., Tustin
15. Crescenta Valley H.S., La Crescenta
16. Canyon H.S., Anaheim Hills
17. San Dimas H.S., San Dimas
18. Esperanza H.S., Anaheim
19. South El Monte H.S., South El Monte
20. John Burroughs H.S., Burbank
21. Foothill H.S., Santa Ana
22. Bernardo Yorba M.S., Yorba Linda
23. Arroyo H.S., El Monte
24. Yorba Linda H.S., Yorba Linda
25. Eleanor Roosevelt H.S., Ontario


2011 SCSBOA OVERALL FIELD RANKINGS AS OF 10/17/11
1. Upland H.S., Upland
2. South Hills H.S., West Covina
3. Riverside King H.S., Riverside
4. Chino H.S., Chino
5. William S. Hart H.S., Newhall
6. Mt. Carmel H.S., San Diego
7. Chino Hills H.S., Chino Hills
8. San Marcos H.S., San Marcos
9. Thousand Oaks H.S., Thousand Oaks
10. Woodbridge H.S., Irvine
11. Valencia H.S., Placentia
12. Arcadia H.S., Arcadia
13. Savanna H.S., Anaheim
14. Rancho Bernardo H.S., San Diego
15. Vista H.S., Vista
16. Mayfair H.S., Lakewood
17. John A. Rowland H.S., Rowland Heights
18. Murrieta Valley H.S., Murrieta
19. Los Osos H.S., Rancho Cucamonga
20. Glendora H.S., Glendora
21. West H.S., Torrance
22. Mira Mesa H.S., San Diego
23. Granada Hills H.S., Granada Hills
24. Carlsbad H.S., Carlsbad
25. Riverside Poly H.S., Riverside


SCSBOA 6A Top 10
1. Upland H.S., Upland
2. Riverside King H.S., Riverside
3. Chino H.S., Chino
4. Mt. Carmel H.S., San Diego
5. San Marcos H.S., San Marcos
6. Thousand Oaks H.S., Thousand Oaks
7. Woodbridge H.S., Irvine
8. Arcadia H.S., Arcadia
9. Savanna H.S., Anaheim
10. Rancho Bernardo H.S., San Diego

SCSBOA 5A Top 10
1. Chino Hills H.S., Chino Hills
2. Vista H.S., Vista
3. Los Osos H.S., Rancho Cucamonga
4. Mira Mesa H.S., San Diego
5. Granada Hills H.S., Granada Hills
6. Riverside Poly H.S., Riverside
7. University H.S., Irvine
8. Esperanza H.S., Anaheim
9. Cypress H.S., Cypress
10. El Camino H.S., Oceanside

SCSBOA 4A Top 10
1. South Hills H.S., West Covina
2. William S. Hart H.S., Newhall
3. Valencia H.S., Placentia
4. Glendora H.S., Glendora
5. Carlsbad H.S., Carlsbad
6. Anaheim H.S., Anaheim
7. Frontier H.S., Bakersfield
8. Mira Costa H.S., Manhattan Beach
9. Warren H.S., Downey
10. Redlands East Valley H.S., Redlands

SCSBOA 3A Top 10
1. La Mirada H.S., La Mirada
2. Yorba Linda H.S., Yorba Linda
3. Alta Loma H.S., Rancho Cucamonga
4. El Toro H.S., Lake Forest
5. Azusa H.S., Azusa
6. Santa Monica H.S., Santa Monica
7. Liberty H.S., Bakersfield
8. Arlington H.S., Riverside
9. Bonita Vista H.S., Chula Vista
10. Valhalla H.S., El Cajon

SCSBOA 2A Top 10
1. Ramona H.S., Ramona
2. Escondido H.S., Escondido
3. Royal H.S., Simi Valley
4. Colony H.S., Ontario
5. Murrieta Mesa H.S., Murrieta
6. Western H.S., Anaheim
7. Serrano H.S., Phelan
8. Gladstone H.S., Covina
9. Capistrano Valley H.S., Mission Viejo
10. Adolfo Camarillo H.S., Camarillo

SCSBOA 1A Top 10
1. Oxnard H.S., Oxnard
2. San Marcos H.S., Santa Barbara
3. Santa Margarita H.S., Rancho Santa Margarita
4. Los Angeles H.S., Los Angeles
5. Lancaster H.S., Lancaster
6. Otay Ranch H.S., Otay Mesa
7. Simi Valley H.S., Simi Valley
8. Nordhoff H.S., Ojai
9. Tustin H.S., Tustin
10. Sunny Hills H.S., Fullerton


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:57 pm 
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I think you're missing La Mirada from the 3A division? They beat Yorba Linda this past weekend. Unless bands have to compete more than once to be ranked?


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
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Looking for Ramona HS (2A) on the SCSBOA grid and they don't even show up... Where have they performed?


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:21 pm 
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cough wrote:
I think you're missing La Mirada from the 3A division? They beat Yorba Linda this past weekend. Unless bands have to compete more than once to be ranked?

An oversight on my part, I never logged their score. Thanks for the catch. La Mirada has been added.

tim8w wrote:
Looking for Ramona HS (2A) on the SCSBOA grid and they don't even show up... Where have they performed?

Ramona from Ramona (San Diego County) performed at Scripps Ranch on the 8th. Remember, only bands signed up for SCSBOA Championships will appear on the grid. I'm pretty sure Ramona usually ends their season with the MBOS Championships.


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:08 pm 
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SCSBOA 1A Top 10
1. Oxnard H.S., Oxnard
2. San Marcos H.S., Santa Barbara
3. Santa Margarita H.S., Rancho Santa Margarita
4. Los Angeles H.S., Los Angeles
5. Lancaster H.S., Lancaster
6. Otay Ranch H.S., Otay Mesa
7. Simi Valley H.S., Simi Valley
8. Nordhoff H.S., Ojai
9. Tustin H.S., Tustin
10. Sunny Hills H.S., Fullerton[/quote]

How come Los Angeles is higher than Lancaster, Simi Valley and Otay Ranch? they are scoring higher then them. or are you rating it not by scores?


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:11 am 
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mastertrumpet1 wrote:
How come Los Angeles is higher than Lancaster, Simi Valley and Otay Ranch? they are scoring higher then them. or are you rating it not by scores?

It's not a straight score comparison, as sometimes at a show the scores are uniformly low or high, and sometimes a band will go a couple of weeks without competing. Contest scoring factors, scoring margins between bands, and a few other variables are factored in. The scores are then extrapolated to produce a current projected final score for the season (this is calculated as the third Saturday of November, regardless of when the band's season actually ends).

STATISTICALLY speaking, Los Angeles' 62.50 at Kennedy on 10/8 was more numerically significant than Lancaster's 65.70 at Royal on 10/15. That said, Los Angeles' "lead" on Lancaster right now is only 0.40 in the rankings.


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:16 am 
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To go one step further in trying to explain this... if all of my SCSBOA 1A Top 10 met at the same competition on November 19th, using all the data from 10/15 and prior I would project the scoring to be...

77.05 Oxnard H.S., Oxnard
72.90 San Marcos H.S., Santa Barbara
72.30 Santa Margarita H.S., Rancho Santa Margarita
71.45 Los Angeles H.S., Los Angeles
71.05 Lancaster H.S., Lancaster
69.60 Otay Ranch H.S., Otay Mesa
68.75 Simi Valley H.S., Simi Valley
68.15 Nordhoff H.S., Ojai
66.90 Tustin H.S., Tustin
66.50 Sunny Hills H.S., Fullerton

Of course, with every passing week the data is refined and the rankings are revised. As one knows with statistics, the larger the sampling size the more likely the statistical projections are going to be accurate.


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:23 am 
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Hostrauser wrote:
To go one step further in trying to explain this... if all of my SCSBOA 1A Top 10 met at the same competition on November 19th, using all the data from 10/15 and prior I would project the scoring to be...

77.05 Oxnard H.S., Oxnard
72.90 San Marcos H.S., Santa Barbara
72.30 Santa Margarita H.S., Rancho Santa Margarita
71.45 Los Angeles H.S., Los Angeles
71.05 Lancaster H.S., Lancaster
69.60 Otay Ranch H.S., Otay Mesa
68.75 Simi Valley H.S., Simi Valley
68.15 Nordhoff H.S., Ojai
66.90 Tustin H.S., Tustin
66.50 Sunny Hills H.S., Fullerton

Of course, with every passing week the data is refined and the rankings are revised. As one knows with statistics, the larger the sampling size the more likely the statistical projections are likely to be accurate.


ok i see what you mean now :P


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
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Not that Esperanza scored well last weekend, but they did beat University straight up at Valencia. Not sure why they would be behind them.


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OldTrumpet wrote:
Not that Esperanza scored well last weekend, but they did beat University straight up at Valencia. Not sure why they would be behind them.

University's performance relative to Woodbridge at the Tesoro show contributed just enough to the formula for them to scrape by Esperanza in the rankings (the margin was only 0.15).


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
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Did anyone see Oxnard's show last weekend? A 71 at a first comp is pretty rare in 1A. Was it that good?


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
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Do you calculate the schools total scores or just take the highest score thus far? I am not understanding your system when you have bands ranked higher than other band that have scored higher.


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
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Hostrauser wrote:
It's not a straight score comparison, as sometimes at a show the scores are uniformly low or high, and sometimes a band will go a couple of weeks without competing. Contest scoring factors, scoring margins between bands, and a few other variables are factored in. The scores are then extrapolated to produce a current projected final score for the season (this is calculated as the third Saturday of November, regardless of when the band's season actually ends).


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
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SocalD wrote:
Did anyone see Oxnard's show last weekend? A 71 at a first comp is pretty rare in 1A. Was it that good?


yeah i saw the show. i was there supporting Lancaster high :)

well anyways. Oxnard did sound good and had great balance. I think that why they scored pretty high on Music and Ge. and made them get a 71. but i think they should have gotten something a bit lower but that just my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: SCSBOA Rankings, Week 3 (10/17/11)
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are you going to update the week 3 competition list because there was a competition on tuesday. or will that go on week 4?


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